Some views on the Matilda II


The Matilda II was the iconic early-war tank of the British Army. When it was first encountered by the Germans in France, and the Italians in North Africa, it was very bad news to them, since none of their standard AT guns did a good job at dealing with it.  By the time of Operation CRUSADER however, it had gone past its heyday in fighting the Germans, and it was about to be replaced by the Valentine, which continued to serve in Europe until the end of the war if not as a main-line battle tank then as a chassis for specialised conversions, such as bridgelayer.  The Matilda II however served as a main battle tank in the Pacific until the end of the war. Nevertheless, even in November 1941  in the desert the Matilda was still potent enough to be a real headache for Axis infantry and tankers, as one can see in this prior post, and it was arguably the Matildas of the Royal Tank Regiment that helped the infantry win the battle in December, while their cruiser colleagues were licking their wounds in the desert, a point well made by Bryan Perett.

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The views below come from the late Major Alexander McGinlay MC and Bar (see this post about how he got his first MC), a Matilda commander in 7 RTR and while not representative, are certainly quite interesting. I would like to thank his family for allowing me to auote them here.  Then Lieutenant McGinlay arrived in Egypt in time for Wavell’s (really O’Connor’s) counteroffensive against the Italians in late 1940, and commanded the first tank into Tobruk.  He then served in the area until the fall of Tobruk in 1942, when he was injured and captured, and again at the end of the war in a Churchill in Italy, after his escape.  In the course of his service he gained the MC and bar, one during the breakout from Tobruk in November 1941, the second during the battle for Rigel Ridge.


4 R.T.R. A Sqdrn. 4 Trp. DEFIANCE on Ed Duda November 1941, showing nicely the unusual large numbers and the special CRUSADER recognition symbol of white/red/white. NZETC

Some of the points made:

  • The Matilda had a high quality of workmanship going into it, the case in point here being that all tanks of the regiment started up without problems after their 5-week sea voyage to Egypt.
  • The armour protection was very good, with the officer in question surviving a direct hit at short-range by a 105mm field gun, with the armour only splitting open at the welding seam.
  • Until the introduction of a “new”  50mm solid shot round by the Germans, the Matilda crews seem to have been relatively unbothered by this gun. (maybe a reference to the introduction of sub-calibre rounds with higher penetration, or maybe the officer is referrring to the first encounters with the more capable 50L60 anti-tank/tank gun). In one incident a 50mm round partially penetrates the tank, cutting the hydraulics of the power traverse on the turret, leading to the crew being well covered in hot oil.
  • The only drawback is seen in the 2-pdr gun which is giving the Germans a big advantage
  • Crews had practiced and executed fire on the move tactics, which the officer sees as an advantage compared to the German tactic of firing only when stopped (see below)
  • The most surprising statement is that on arrival in Egypt in 1940 the tanks had some high-explosive (HE) rounds available.  It is generally accepted that no 2-pdr HE made it to the desert.  (I have followed this up with David Fletcher from the Bovington RAC Tank Museum, who suspects that maybe it was an error in remembering – there is no evidence for 2-pdr HE being delivered in the desert, but the stowage  diagrams show only AT supposed to be in the tank)

Below an interesting excerpt from the papers on how the German gun advantage was overcome by the British tankers:

The enemy had the gun advantage, but things were evened up a bit by the fact that we were better trained, in that we could, and did, fire our main gun on the move.  They had to stop.  So, by putting down smoke, either ourselves, or our back-up artillery, we could use the smoke to cut down the distance between them and us.  When the smoke cleared, we were in among them, firing on the move.  They did not like it. Our lighter armoured divisions especially took good advantage of this tactic.

A few comments on this very interesting passage:

  • German tactics were very different, and trained the tankers to stop before firing the main gun. This was seen to improve effectiveness by the Germans. The main issue with firing on the move is keeping the gun on target – with lighter guns, provided a shoulder mount was installed (as it was in the Matilda)
  • Smoke from the supporting artillery depended on good co-operation between the tanks and the guns.  Not something the Commonwealth forces were proficient in until much later in the desert war, although it appears that the Tobruk fortress forces did very well in this regard.
  • Smoke from tanks could be provided by the close-support tanks of which two were on strength in every squadron, normally attached to Squadron HQ. These tanks were equipped with 76mm howitzers instead of 2-pdr guns, and carried almost entirely smoke rounds.

A fine book on the Matilda is Bryan Perett’s “The Matilda Tank”.  Good luck getting a copy at a reasonable price – I failed and paid a lot.

13 thoughts on “Some views on the Matilda II

  1. Crisp’s “Brazen Chariots” has a reasonably lengthy passage on the futility of shooting on the move, and how the author trained his troop to conduct micro-halts, shoot, then move on again, with the aim of maximising both the defensive advantages of constant movement with the offensive advantages of more accurate shooting.

    Of course, he was in a Honey, rather than a Matilda, and the Honey had a ‘free’ mount for the main armament.

    There is a photo of a Matilda with a triptych of 50mm holes in it here:


  2. OTOH, the Matilda is heavier, slower, and has a longer “wheelbase” than the Honey, all of which mean that it’d be a much more stable platform to fire from on the move compared to the Honey.

    I would take it (and naturally in conjunction with the comments of Crisp and McGinlay ) therefore, that shoot-on-the-move tactics were viable for the Matilda in a way that they were not for the Honey.

    Or, in other words; horses for courses.


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  4. Spot on about Honey unsuitable for shooting on-the-move. R.D. Lawrence (GREEN TREES BEYOND, pp. 109-10), a tank gunner in 7th Armored Brigade during Crusader, took part in what seems to have been the first heavy metal exchange of the battle – on 18 Nov – upon encountering a small German supply convoy; his first shot, on the move, missed badly. Second, after stopping, flamed a truck and killed people.


    • Minor correction. If he was in 7th Armoured Brigade, he was not in a Honey. 🙂 They were all in 4th Armoured Brigade (he would have been either in 3 RTR, 5 RTR, or 8 Hussars).


  5. Yes, that’s what I thought at first: 3rd RTR…..but Lawrence says he took part in a late-in-the-day, 18 November attack on a smallish German supply convoy; according to 7th Armored Brigade Cdr Davy (7th AND THREE ENEMIES, p. 145), this involved elements of 7th Hussars. Just from reading Crisp, it looks like 3rd RTR saw its first action on the 19th (also a convoy attack). I am sure Lawrence would know what kind of tank he was in, so have to admit myself perplexed. Maybe you can decipher his statement as to his unit: “Next we were assigned to units, my own draw being 7th Battalion of the Royal Tank Regiment…”. So which RTR had a 7th Battalion?


    • There is only one RTR, with several battalions. Nos. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 42, and 44 were all involved in the battle. 9 RTR was a Churchill unit at that time in England (there’s a marvellous book about it, called ‘Tank Tracks’ – it first saw action in Normandy. 7 RTR was a Matilda unit at the time of CRUSADER. Only ‘D’ Squadron participated in the battle, as part of the Tobruk garrison breakout force. I guess this shows the dangers of personal recollections. 😉


  6. Only if I don’t have an expert to consult; thanks. Lawrence wrote his memoir during the early 1990s, published ’94…so after 50 years, some events, dates, unit #’s got smudged together in his memory. Putting it all together, looks like he was in 3rd RTR. I just wish I could find something substantial from 7th Armored Brigade, other than Davy’s book, and esp. from 22nd Armored…but so far no luck.


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  9. Pre-war 2pdr ammo production was almost one million rounds. These were roughly 33% AP Shot and 67% AP Shell. The two rounds were identical except for markings (shot and shell), although I have seen reference to the AP Shell being painted yellow and Shot painted black. This was in a report about Beda Fomm wher the tank commander noted that the yellow HE rounds were just as effective against M11/39 tanks as the black shot.
    The bursting charge was small and the lighter weight did decrease penetration, which was something the Germans noted with the PAK 34 37mm gun firing Panzergranate rounds. For this reason, the British removed the bursting charges from their already manufactured AP Shell and replaced it with lead/iron.
    I know that the cruiser tanks did not want AP Shell due to their belief that their purpose was to fight tanks, but the RTR, when supporting infantry brigades, would have found it useful. I have yet to find any proof that the production of AP Shell was NOT restarted after the 1940 ‘invasion scare’.
    The later HE ammunition was a different size from the AP SHot/Shell and had different sized stowage racks. In Recce units, a two car patrol had one car with HE and no Littlejohn adapter, while the other car had AP and retained the adapter because of this.


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